Living totally / Postponement
Living totally / トータル（全一）に生きる
Postponement / 延期
Alexander the Great meets Diogenes
commentary（解説）…
未来での成就を追いかける無益さを見て、
これ以上はなにも必要ないことを認めましょう。
延期してはいけません。
osho…
美しい物語がある、
アレキサンダー大王がインドに向かっている途中で、
彼はある不思議な男と会った、
ディオゲネスは人間の意識のまれにみる開花の1つだ。
アレキサンダー大王はその男に興味を持った、
彼はディオゲネスについてたくさんの物語を聞いていた。
彼はディオゲネスのところに行くのを恐れた。
それは彼より低い、彼のエゴ（欲・自我）に反対した。
しかし
彼がインドに向かっているとき、
その道の途中でディオゲネスがちょうど川岸で暮らしていると聞いた。
すると彼はその誘惑に抵抗することができなくなり言った、
「誰1人も帰路で私がディオゲネスと会うことを知らない。
そして私がちょうど通りがかるときに
偶然彼と出会ったと言うことができる。」
彼はディオゲネスに会いに行った。
それは冬の朝で、冷たい風が吹いていた、
川の堤の砂の上で横になり
裸で日光浴をしていた。
彼は美しい人間だった。
美しい魂があるとき、
この世のものではない美が立ち昇る
…それは非論理的だ。
もしアレキサンダー大王が美しく見えたら、
それは論理的だ、
覚えておきなさい、
なぜなら
彼はあなたが考える人が持つべきである全てを持っている。
彼はパワーとお金を持っている、
彼は人が考えたり想像できたりする全てを持っている。
彼の美は所有による。
さて、
ここに裸で横たわっている男がいる、
なにも持たずに
…彼はなにも持っていなかった、
乞食椀すら持っていなかった。
ゴータマ・ブッダは少なくとも乞食椀は持っていた。
ディオゲネスは乞食椀を持っていなかった、
なぜならある日
彼が歩いていたとき、
彼の乞食椀で水を飲もうとして川に近づいたら、
犬が川に駆け込むのを見た。
もちろん、犬の方が先にたどり着いた、
そして犬は川にジャンプして飛び込み水を飲んだ。
ディオゲネスは笑って言った、
「この犬は私にあるレッスンを教えてくれた。
もし彼が乞食椀なしで生きることができるなら、
なぜ私にできないだろうか？」
彼は乞食椀を捨てた、
彼も犬のように川にジャンプして飛び込み水を飲んだ。
それ以来彼はなにも持っていない。
そしてこの犬はディオゲネスに何かを感じたようだ、
なぜなら彼らは友達になった、
彼らは一緒に暮らした。
アレキサンダー大王が来た。
彼はこの人の優美さを信じることができなかった。
彼はこんなに優美な人をけっして見たことがなかった、
こんな真の美を、
なにか未知なるもの、
なにか非論理的な…
なぜなら理由がないからだ！
あなたはそれがどこから来ているのか
突き止めることができない。
彼は畏怖の念にかられて言った、
「サー…。」
彼はそれまでの生涯で、
誰にも「サー」と言ったことはなかった。
彼は言った。
「サー、私はあなたの存在に途方もない感銘をうけました、
私はあなたのためになにかをして差し上げたいのです。
なにか私にできることがあるでしょうか？」
ディオゲネスは言った、
「ただ片側に寄って立ってくれないか、
あなたは太陽を妨げている
…それだけだ。
他にはなにも必要ない。」
アレキサンダーは言った、
「もし私に地球に来るもう1つ別のチャンスがあったら、
私は神に尋ねるだろう、
私を再びアレキサンダーにするかわりに、
私をディオゲネスにしてください、と。」
ディオゲネスは笑って言った、
「それをあなたは尋ねないだろう、
なぜなら
たった今、誰があなたを妨げている？
あなたはディオゲネスになることができる。
あなたはどこへ行こうとしているのか？
何カ月もの間、私は軍隊が動いているのを見てきた
…あなたはどこへ行こうとしているのか？
そしてなんのために？」
アレキサンダーは言った、
「私は全世界を征服するためにインドに行くところだ。」
「その後で、あなたはどうするつもりなのか？」
ディオゲネスは尋ねた。
アレキサンダーは言った、
「それから私は休む。」
ディオゲネスは再び笑って言った、
「あなたは狂っている！
なぜなら
私はいま休んでいる、
そして私は世界を征服しなかった。
私にはその必要があるとは思えない。
もし最後には休んで、くつろぎたいのであれば、
なぜ今そうしないのか？
どんな関係がある？
誰が、あなたが休む前に、
あなたは世界を征服しなくてはならないと
話したのか？
そして私はあなたに言おう、
もしあなたが今休まないならば、
あなたはけっして休まないだろう。
あなたはけっして世界を征服できないだろう、
なぜなら
なにかが
または
誰かがいつも征服する状態が続くだろうから
…そして生は短い、時間はつかの間だ。
あなたは旅の途中で死ぬだろう
…誰もがみな旅の途中で死ぬ。」
アレキサンダーは言った、
「私はそれをいつもマインド（思考）にとめておくことにしよう、
しかし今は私には休むことはできない。
しかしあなたのアドバイスにたくさんの感謝をするよ。」
そして
アレキサンダーは旅の途中で死んだ。
彼は二度と再び家にたどり着かなかった、
彼は途上で死んだ。
彼がインドから帰る途中で彼は死んだ。
そしてその日彼はディオゲネスを思い出した。
ディオゲネスだけが彼のマインド（思考）にあった
…彼は彼の生の中で1度も休むことができなかった、
そしてこの男は休んだ。
それから
ディオゲネスもその同じ日に死んだという
不思議な物語がずっと語り継がれている。
そして彼らは
神に向かう途上で、
ちょうど川を渡るところで出会った。
アレキサンダーは後ろに誰かがいるのを耳にしたとき、数フィート先を行っていた。
彼は振り返った、
そして彼は驚いた
…驚き恥ずかしくなった。
それはディオゲネス、あの同じ美しい人だった。
アレキサンダーは恥ずかしさを隠そうとした。
彼は言った、
「やあ、また会いましたね、
皇帝と乞食が。」
ところがディオゲネスは言った、
「たしかにそのとおりだ。
しかしあなたは誤解している、
あなたは誰が乞食で、
誰が皇帝かわかっていない。
あなたが乞食で、
私が皇帝だ、
なぜなら
私は自分の生をトータル（全一）に生きた、
それを楽しんだ。
だから
私は神のところに行くことができ、
神に顔を合わすことができる。
あなたは神に顔を合わすことができないだろう、
なぜなら
私にはわかるからだ、
あなたは私にすら顔を合わすことができない！
あなたは震えている、
あなたは恥じている。
あなたは私の目を見入ることができない
…神に顔を合わすとき
あなたになにが起こるだろうか？
あなたの全生涯は無駄だった。」
from osho talks
oshoの講話より
from osho transformation tarot
osho transformation タロット より
Take It Easy, Vol 1
Talks on Zen Buddhism
Talks given from 11/04/78 am to 24/04/78 am
English Discourse series
Chapter 4
Chapter title: Live Dangerously
14 April 1978 am in Buddha Hall
この全講話の英語のダウンロードpdfはこちら。
chapter 4 の質問2の英語の全講話です。
（上の日本語のこのカードの解説はこの講話の1部であり、
昔のこのカードについていた日本語の解説です。
今のカードには英語の解説しかありません。
以下の英語の講話はこのお話しの全てです。
英語はなんとか読めるのですが…
翻訳とかできるような実力はないので…
間違っているかもしれませんが
あくまでも趣味で独学ですが
導師 master osho との瞑想 meditation と思って和訳してみたりしていますσ(^_^;)
まだ以下の英語の講話を全部訳すことができていませんが…
いつになるかわかりませんが少しづつがんばって訳していますσ(^_^;)
素晴らしいお話しなので英語で読める方は
是非読んでみてください。）
Live Dangerously
The second question
Question 2
IT HAS BEEN MY EXPERIENCE THAT IT IS NOT SO MUCH THAT THE RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE IS ILLOGICAL AS IT IS SUPRA-LOGICAL;
THAT IS, IT SEEMS TO TRANSCEND THE MORE LIMITED AND FEAR-INVENTED LOGIC THAT IS OF THE HEAD ALONE IN THAT IT INCLUDES THE LOGIC THAT IS OF THE HEART AND BEYOND.
FOR IT HAS BEEN THAT WHENEVER I HAVE ALLOWED MYSELF TO FEEL RATHER THAN THINK, THAT WHICH EMERGES ONLY SEEMS ILLOGICAL AT FIRST TO THAT ASPECT OF MIND WHICH IS STRICTLY LIMITING MY PERSPECTIVE.
BUT THEN WHENEVER I HAVE ALLOWED MYSELF THE FREEDOM TO PLUMMET TO THE DEPTHS OF THE FEELING, THEN THE COSMOLOGICAL REASON FOR MY PARTICULAR NEED TO EXPRESS HAS BEEN SHOWN IN TERMS POST-BIRTH, BIRTH, PRE-BIRTH AND PAST LIFE TRAUMA.
COULD THERE BE ANYTHING MORE GRANDIOSELY LOGICAL THAN THE INFINITE INTERCONNECTIVENESS OF THE VAST EMPTINESS?
HOW COULD IT BE ANY OTHER WAY?
IF IT CANNOT BE ANY OTHER WAY, THEN IT MUST ALL HOLD SUPRA-LOGICALLY TOGETHER AS IT SO OBVIOUSLY DOES.
FROM SUCH AN ANALYSIS IS WOULD SEEM LOGICAL TO CONCLUDE, AS MYSTICS HAVE ALWAYS DONE, THAT THE HEAD’S FEAR OF TAKING THE QUANTUM LEAP INTO THE MUCH VASTER LOGIC IS WHERE THE PROBLEM SITS, RATHER THAN IT BEING A PROBLEM OF LOGIC PER SE.
The question is from Swami Anand Parad.
He is a well-known author.
And the answer is in the question itself.
That’s why my people were laughing – they have answered.
They have not left anything for me to answer.
It is ALL logic, logic-chopping.
And remember, logic is very cunning.
Cunningness is intrinsic to logic.
It can pretend, it can talk in terms of supra-logical, but that supra-logical is nothing but an extension of the same logical mind.
Go slowly into this question:
IT HAS BEEN MY EXPERIENCE THAT IT IS NOT SO MUCH THAT THE RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE IS ILLOGICAL AS IT IS SUPRA-LOGICAL.
Now the logic is trying to defend itself.
The logic is afraid of the illogical.
If it is called supra-logical then it is okay – just by changing the label?
A rose is a rose is a rose...
what you call it will not make any difference.
It will be a rose called by any other name whatsoever.
Just by calling it ’supra-logical’,
why docs your mind feel better?
Calling it supra-logical, the mind has claimed it. It says,
”It is within MY limits – supra maybe, but it is within my limits. I can cover it, I can hold it. You need not go beyond me.”
You have just to become a little more logical.
You have to just make your boundaries a little bigger.
Your imprisonment will remain.
The jail becomes a supra-jail.
It has bigger boundaries;
you push the boundaries farther away.
You can push them so far away that you cannot see them.
That’s what is happening in the world, has been happening always.
What you call a nation, what is it?
It is a supra-jail.
The boundaries are so far away that you cannot see them.
But when you cross the boundaries of a country to another country, you remember then that you are a prisoner.
Then you know that you are surrounded by police and the army, that a visa is needed, that a passport is needed.
That you don’t belong to the earth,
that the whole earth docs not belong to you.
That it is a big jail called India, China, Pakistan, America, Canada
– there are many jails on the earth.
But they are so big!
Unless you come closer to the boundary you will not know them.
Have you not felt it?
Crossing the boundary of a country you feel great uneasiness;
you simply feel yourself a prisoner.
You are not a FREE man.
And the freedom seems to be just talk.
Freedom cannot exist on the earth unless nations disappear.
Nations cannot allow freedom.
All the constitutions of the world, even the so-called democratic constitutions.
What kind of freedom of movement is this?
And you must be knowing it by bitter experience, because you are here suffering all kinds of indignities.
The police are after you.
the government is after you:
”You have to leave the country.
Your six weeks are over, or eight weeks are over.”
What kind of freedom is this?
Freedom of movement you call it.
And a mam cannot move from one country to another country.
The prison is big.
It is a supra-prison.
If you are not a Hindu you cannot go into a Hindu temple.
If you are not a Jain you are not allowed into a Jain temple.
These are again prisons.
And there are prisons and prisons and prisons....
Mind is very cunning in deceiving itself.
That’s why I don’t call it supra-logical.
I simply call it illogical – for a certain reason.
The reason is this:
that by calling it illogical I want to shatter all the walls.
Supra-logical and the wall remains.
It recedes farther back,
it may almost become invisible,
but it remains.
Hence I insist that IT IS illogical.
The jump into God is illogical,
it is not logical.
I agree with the Christian mystic Tertullian:
”CREDO QUIA ABSURDUM.”
He says:
”I believe in God because God is absurd, illogical, irrational.”
A rational God will not be much of a God;
it will be just a concept.
– because logic is an imposition,
it is an invention of man.
The trees don’t know about it.
and the stars don’t know anything about it.
It is only man who imposes a certain pattern.
ALL patterns are imposed out of fear.
The fear is that man always want to label things
– once he has labelled a thing he feels very at ease.
Now he thinks he knows.
This naming business has gone very deep.
Somebody asks,
”What kind of tree is this?”
and you tell him,
’This is a pine,’
and he is satisfied
– as if he has known what it is just by calling, it a pine.
He thinks he knows.
If he had not been answered what kind of tree this is, he would have felt uneasy, because that illogical, that tree beyond human language, human comprehension, is standing there as a challenge.
Pin it down!
put a label
on it! and
you are satisfied.
What have you come to know by putting a label on it?
Thousands of talented people simply go on doing this naming business
– they call it research.
What kind of research is this.
This is not research at all.
It is not even I search
– it is just making mind feel easy.
Small children go on asking,
”What is this?”
you just answer anything – ABC –
you say anything,
and they are satisfied.
Then they are asking about something else:
”And what is this?”
They go on just asking,
”What is this?”
From that very curiosity, all naming business arises.
When I say life is illogical, I mean it is not nameable.
Try to understand what I mean!
I mean it is not nameable.
You cannot pinpoint it.
Call it supra-logical and you have pinpointed it, you have pinned it down.
Now it is no more the butterfly alive;
it is a pinned butterfly in an album, dead.
You have transformed its quality completely, you have destroyed it.
When I say illogical I mean unnameable,
I mean no word will be able to express it.
Lao Tzu says:
Truth cannot be said.
The moment you say it, it becomes untrue.
This is what I mean by calling reality illogical,
irrational.
It is beyond the comprehension of mind.
Call it supra-logical, and you feel at ease;
then you are no longer afraid of it.
You have the feeling that you know about it.
Absence of knowledge creates deep insecurity.
There is still something which we don’t know.
It has to be known!
Maybe there is danger.
Have you not felt it when you meet a stranger?
The immediate curiosity is who he is
– what name, what religion, what country?
Immediately you start inquiring.
Just within four, five questions you have pinned the man down – mm?
– he is a Hindu, an Indian, works as a clerk in an office.
How much salary?
In India they even ask that, and they even ask how much you get on the side.
Nobody feels any insult;
nobody feels ”What is being asked?”
People say, ”Answer!”
Once you have known the financial position,
the status,
the name,
the religion,
the caste,
you relax.
So you can relax, you know this man.
You have known this type of man before.
But can any man be pinned down like that?
NO two men are alike.
Each individual is only like himself.
By calling him a hindu you are just misinterpreting the whole thing.
You may have known other Hindus, but they were OTHER Hindus.
and this Hindu is a totally different phenomenon.
You cannot understand him by understanding other Hindus.
You may have known other clerks, but his is a totally different man.
There is no way of understanding him through these queries.
If you want to understand a man really,
you will have to go deep down into this man’s mystery
– and that is illogical.
You will have to go into love.
That’s what I mean when I say illogical.
IT HAS BEEN MY EXPERIENCE THAT IT IS NOT SO MUCH THAT THE RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE IS ILLOGICAL AS IT IS SUPRA-LOGICAL.
Parad, you have not experienced religion yet.
You don’t know what you are talking about.
You may have felt a few emotions, very elevated, but that is not religion.
Any experience as such is not religion
– religion is not an experience.
Try to see the point.
Religion is NOT an experience because there is no experiencer left.
It is a dissolution.
One disappears into it.
One cannot experience it.
One is not found.
One simply dissolves.
Just like a drop of water falls into the ocean and disappears into the ocean....
Is this an experience?
It is death, it is disappearance.
And yet the drop has become the ocean itself.
When a man disappears into God like a drop disappearing in the ocean, this is religious experience
– but can you call it experience?
The experiencer is no more there.
The subjectivity is no more there
– there is no object to it.
Our ordinary experiences are divided into three things:
the knower,
the known and
the knowledge.
The religious experience is a unique phenomenon.
There is nothing known,
there is no knower,
there is only knowing.
The knower has gone,
the known has disappeared,
there is only knowing.
The lover is no more there,
the beloved is no more there,
there is only loving.
It can’t be called an experience ordinarily,
If you want to call it ’experience’,
put it in inverted commas.
You say:
IT HAS BEEN MY EXPERIENCE THAT IT IS NOT SO MUCH THAT THE RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE IS ILLOGICAL AS IT IS SUPRA-LOGICAL.
Then whatsoever you have experienced is a mind phenomenon.
Your mind can comprehend it.
Then you can make it supra-logical!
For example,
if you feel a certain energy arising in your spine, this is supra-logical.
In fact, I will not even call it supra-logical
– this is just logical.
There is no need to bring that ’supra’, that big word.
It is all experience, a physical, tangible experience.
Or
you see light deep down in your third-eye center, great light arises
– this is an experience.
And this you can call supra-logical because it is not an ordinary experience.
But this is not religion.
Religion is still far beyond all this.
There is no light,
there is no energy,
there is no God to be encountered,
there is no you left
– all has disappeared.
There is UTTER emptiness,
what Buddha calls SHUNYATA
– nothingness.
That is not supra-logical:
it is simply illogical.
Logic cannot exist there because mind as such is no more.
Logic is a shadow of the mind.
When the mind itself has disappeared, logic cannot exist.
And supra-logic can exist only when logic is in existence;
they are linked together.
THAT IS, IT SEEMS TO TRANSCEND THE MORE LIMITED AND FEAR-INVENTED LOGIC THAT IS OF THE HEAD ALONE...
What you are calling
’the logic of the head alone’
is the ONLY logic.
sometimes you can even start calling the logic of the heart a different kind of logic,
but it is not logic at all.
If it is still logic, ordinary or supra, then it is still of the head.
Head is logic,
heart is illogic
– that is their polarity.
And if you call it also logic,
then you have made your heart also an appendage to the head;
it is no more the polar opposite.
Head is logic,
heart is illogic
– that is their polarity.
And if you call it also logic,
then you have made your heart also an appendage to the head;
it is no more the polar opposite.
Head is logic
and
heart is supra-logic
– you have put them into one line;
they have become part of one syllogism.
Heart is NOT part of the same syllogism.
Heart cannot think
– how can it have supra-logic?
Heart feels
– feeling has no logic. It is illogical.
You fall in love with a woman, what logic is there?
And if there is logic, there can’t be love.
If you think she is rich,
if you think that she is the only daughter of her parents,
if you think there is going to come power and prestige through her,
then there is logic but there is no love.
That is the problem!
Your parents think logically about your love affair, and you think illogically.
That’s why parents and children can’t communicate
– the gap, the generation gap.
The young person is yet brave enough.
Life has not cowed him down.
He can still take the risk
– he would like TO take the risk.
He has energy and vitality to go into the unknown.
But the older generation, the people who have lived their lives, they know that it is dangerous, that it is insecure
– better be logical.
Marriage was created by logical people.
They killed love affairs completely.
It was dangerous.
India is one of the most logical countries in the world.
The logic was:
let the children get married,
even when they don’t know anything about love – child-marriage.
That was the logical conclusion.
Once they are young, they would like to fool around. It looks foolish to the older generation:
they will get into difficulties,
they will start falling in love with people who may not be so economically secure.
Or there will be a thousand and one other problems.
A Brahmin boy can fall in love with a Sudra girl, and that will create difficulties.
A rich man’s girl can fall in love with a poor man’s boy, and there will be difficulty.
It is better to avoid all difficulties:
child-marriage was invented.
That was a logical conclusion.
Before they know anything of love let them get married,
so they will grow like brother and sister, as brothers do.
You never choose your sister,
you never choose your brother
– and still you love.
That love is not real love;
that is only liking, familiarity.
Living together, playing together, one starts liking.
India reduced...
there is only one relationship with all freedom to choose.
Father you cannot choose, it is given;
mother you cannot choose,
sister you cannot choose,
brother you cannot choose,
uncles you cannot choose
– they are all given.
There was only one freedom left which was dangerous:
you could have chosen your wife or your husband.
India destroyed that freedom too.
You were not allowed even to choose that.
Small children, four years old, five years old....
When my mother got married she was only seven years old.
I was asking her again and again,
”Tell me how you felt?”
She said,
”I didn’t know what was happening. I was simply joyous that something was happening. I used to run out to see what was happening, and they would pull me back inside the house. And they locked me in on the day when the real ceremony was going to happen, because I was so much interested in the bands and the music and the horses. And the people were coming....”
And I asked my father,
”What did you feel?”
He said,
”I don’t know – I just enjoyed the horse ride!”
Just a small child – must have enjoyed.
And so many people walking around – he must have felt like a king.
Something was happening,
but what was happening...?
Then they grew together.
Then naturally, when you grow together you start liking each other
– but love has been denied,
love has been killed.
It is very rare, there is not much possibility of love growing, because all romance has been destroyed.
Heart is illogical.
Mind is logical.
Don’t call heart supra-logical.
That is again, Parad, your fear.
You are afraid of the heart;
you want to bring it under the rule of the head.
Logic is head’s rule.
There are people who don’t love.
They THINK they love
– their feeling also comes via thinking.
When they come to me and they say,
”I think I am in love,”
I ask them,
”You just be true
– either you are in love or you are not in love.
How can you THINK you are in love?”
Thinking is bogus and false,
but thinking has become so predominant.
We have been taught to think and to avoid feelings.
Feelings are dangerous.
They have no utility.
Thinking is utilitarian;
it makes you capable of living in the world, of fighting in the world
– for survival, for your ambitions.
It makes you calculating, cunning, clever.
It gives you power.
Feeling?
Feeling does not give you any power.
Feeling has no politics in it
– that is the problem.
Thinking is political:
feeling is religious.
And I have never come across a political person who is religious or can be religious, unless he renounces politics.
I have never come across a religious person who can be political.
It is impossible.
If he is political,
then his religion is false.
then his being religious is also part of his politics.
You say:
FOR IT HAS BEEN THAT WHENEVER I HAVE ALLOWED MYSELF TO FEEL RATHER THAN THINK...
My feeling is that you were still thinking
– you were thinking that you were feeling.
... THAT WHICH EMERGES ONLY SEEMS ILLOGICAL AT FIRST TO THAT ASPECT OF MIND WHICH IS STRICTLY LIMITING MY PERSPECTIVE.
BUT THEN WHENEVER I HAVE ALLOWED MYSELF THE FREEDOM TO PLUMMET TO THE DEPTHS OF THE FEELING...
WHO ARE YOU GOING INTO THE DEPTHS OF FEELING?
– the head,
the mind,
the thinking,
the logic.
Yes, if you go into feelings with logic....
Logic is a chronic systematizer;
it is obsessed with systematization.
Wherever it goes,
it systematizes,
it immediately starts categorizing.
It cannot allow chaos
– chaos seems to be like a death.
It immediately starts putting things in order.
Who is this one, Parad, who goes deep into the feelings?
About whom are you talking?
You are identified with the head
– feelings are something accidental into which you are going.
You are not the feeling.
You are the head, you remain the head.
Then, naturally, sooner or later, you will systematize.
And, if you cannot systematize something which goes on rebelling against the systems, you will deny it, you will say it doesn’t exist.
You will ignore it, you will forget about it.
Nobody wants to allow something which becomes a constant strain on you.
That’s why millions of people have denied God
– because the very presence of God,
the very idea that God is, is frightening.
That means sooner or later you will have to encounter him;
sooner or later you will have to FACE him.
That makes people very much afraid.
They start trembling – the very idea:
facing God!
Then what are you doing?
Is it worth it?
Will you be able to say to God that this is what you have been doing?
This is what you have wasted your life in?
That you were a prime minister?
That you were so stupid as to waste your whole life for power-politics?
That you were a rich man;
that you wasted your whole life in collecting rubbish?
Will you be able to face God?
And all that you attained in life will be left here.
You will not be able to carry your money or your power.
You will be standing naked, utterly ashamed.
＊
There is a beautiful story:
When Alexander the Great was coming to India, he met one strange man, Diogenes, on the way.
Diogenes is one of the rare flowerings of human consciousness.
Alexander was interested in the man;
he had heard many stories about him.
He was afraid to go to him.
It was below him, it was against his ego.
But when he was coming to India, on the way he heard that he was living just by the side of the river. Then he could not resist the temptation and he said,
”Nobody will know back home that I had gone to see Diogenes.
And I can always say that I was just passing and I met him by accident.”
He went to see Diogenes.
It was a winter morning, a cool breeze was blowing, and Diogenes was lying on the river-bank, on the sand, taking a sunbath naked.
He was a beautiful man.
When there is a beautiful soul,
a beauty arises which is not of this world
– which is illogical.
If Alexander looks beautiful, it is logical,
remember,
because he has all that you think one should have.
He has power, money;
he has all that one can think or imagine to have.
His beauty that of possessions.
Now, here was a man lying naked, with nothing
– he had nothing, not even a begging-bowl.
Buddha at least had a begging-bowl.
Diogenes didn’t have a begging-bowl,
because one day when he was walking, and going towards the river with his begging-bowl to get some water to drink, he saw a dog rushing to the river.
Of course, the dog reached first, and the dog jumped in the river and drank.
Diogenes laughed and he said,
”This dog has taught me a lesson.
If he can live without a begging-bowl, then why can’t I?”
He threw the begging-bowl,
he also jumped like the dog in the river and drank.
Since then he had had nothing.
And this dog must have felt something for Diogenes, because they became friends;
they lived together.
Alexander came.
He could not believe the grace of the man.
He had never seen such a graceful man, such utter beauty, something from the unknown, something illogical... because there is no reason!
You cannot pin it down, where it is coming from.
He was in awe and he said,
”Sir...”
He had not said ”Sir” to anybody in his life.
He said,
”Sir, I am immensely impressed by your being, and I would like to do something for you. Is there something that I can do for you?”
Diogenes said,
”Just stand to the side because you are preventing the sun
– that’s all. Nothing else do I need.”
Alexander said,
”If I have another chance to come to the earth, I will ask God,
instead of making me Alexander again,
to make me Diogenes.”
Diogenes laughed and he said,
”That you won’t ask for, because who is preventing you right now?
You can become Diogenes.
Where are you going?
For months I have seen armies moving and moving
– where are you going?
and for what?”
And Alexander said,
”I am going to India to conquer the whole world.”
”And then what are you going to do?” Diogenes asked.
And Alexander said,
”Then I will rest.”
And Diogenes laughed again and he said,
”You are mad – because I am resting NOW;
and I have not conquered the world.
I don’t see the necessity of it.
If just in the end you want to rest and relax,
why not now?
How are they related?
Who has told you that before resting, you have to conquer the world?
And I tell you:
if you don’t rest now, then never.
You will never be able to conquer the world,
because something or other will always remain to be conquered...
and life is short and time is fleeting.
You will die in the middle of your journey
– everybody dies in the middle of the journey.”
Alexander said,
”I will keep it always in mind, but right now I cannot do it.
But many many thanks for your advice.”
And Alexander died in the middle.
He never reached back home,
he died on the way.
When he was moving back from India, he died on the way.
And that day he remembered Diogenes.
Only Diogenes was in his mind
– he could never rest in his life, and that man rested.
And then a strange story has been known down the ages, that Diogenes also died on the same day.
And they met on the way towards God, just crossing the border river.
Alexander Was ahead, a few feet ahead, when he heard somebody behind.
He looked back, and he was surprised
– surprised and ashamed.
It was Diogenes, the same beautiful man.
Alexander tried to hide his shame.
He said
”So again, again we are meeting, the emperor and the beggar.”
And Diogenes said,
”That is true.
But you misunderstand one thing:
you don’t know who is the beggar and who is the emperor.
You are the beggar,
I am the emperor,
because I lived my life totally,
I enjoyed it.
And I can go to God, I can face him.
You will not be able to face him, because I can see:
you cannot even face me!
You are trembling, you are ashamed.
You cannot look into my eyes
– what will happen to you when you have to face God?
your whole life has been a wastage.”
People deny God – they have to deny
because the presence of god makes them very very uneasy.
My own experience is that people who are very much in fear, deeply in fear, deny God.
They deny all that is incomprehensible to them.
They always want everything to be systematized, because one you systematize something, it is within your control, it is in your fist, you are the master.
When something goes on slipping out of your systematization, you start freaking out.
And life IS illogical.
And if you don’t understand the mystics, ask the physicists
– they have also stumbled upon the same fact.
Ask albert Einstein or Eddington
– ask these people,
because they are now seeing very strange phenomena, strange and illogical.
Looking into matter deeply, physicists have stumbled upon the same illogicalness.
Electrons behave in such a way that it is not logical;
there is no way to predict the behaviour of an electron.
and its behaviour is contradictory
– that’s why it is called ’quanta’.
’Quanta’ means
– and from ’quanta’ the word ’quantum leap’ that you have used in your question –
’quanta’ means a particle is behaving in such a strange way that you can think of it as a particle or as a wave.
Both together, simultaneously!
That is impossible.
That is very much against Euclidean geometry.
Either something is a dot, a point, or something is a line;
either something is a particle or something is a wave.
One thing cannot be both together, simultaneously.
But that’s how it is.
When Heisenberg was asked,
”How can you say it? It is illogical!”
he said,
”It is illogical, but what can we do?
We cannot order those quanta to behave rightly and logically.
We have no power over them.
That’s how they are behaving.
So if it is illogical, change your logic
– but we cannot change quanta.
We cannot put policemen there to say,
”Behave! Behave logically, behave morally!”
Hence the theory of indeterminacy.
Uncertainty has arisen.
Physics has become almost mysticism,
because they have also come across the phenomenon.
It is illogical, it is incomprehensible.
That is the meaning of a mystery.
If the mystery becomes comprehensible,
then it is no more a mystery;
you have solved it.
And man, out of fear, has been trying to solve all the mysteries.
If he cannot solve, then he denies.
That’s why scientists go on denying the soul
– because they cannot solve it. It creates so many problems, the very idea –
it becomes insoluble.
There is no soul.
There are things which are not comprehensible and yet experiencible.
Just think of two persons going to listen to great music.
One is a musician,
the other is a non-musician.
Both listen to the same music.
The musician will listen to the harmony, the melody,
and
the non-musician will listen only to the single notes, individual notes.
He will hear the noise – one note, another note, another note... notes following notes –
but he will not see the thread running between them,
he will not be able to see the melody that arises out of them.
That melody remains invisible to his ears;
it is not heard.
But the musician will be able to hear the melody, although he cannot prove it
– it is incomprehensible.
What is melody?
That is God.
What IS melody?
Melody is that music is something more than the parts, something MORE than the parts.
something more than the sum total of the parts is the melody.
That is the meaning of soul:
something more than the sum total of the body-mind is soul.
And what is God?
Something more than the universe, more than the sum total of all the parts.
But that is incomprehensible, and that is not supra-logical,
because supra-logical is again comprehension of the same mind
– the same mind trying to become more and more clever.
FROM SUCH AN ANALYSIS, you ask, IT WOULD SEEM LOGICAL TO CONCLUDE,
AS MYSTICS HAVE ALWAYS DONE,
THAT THE HEAD’S FEAR OF TAKING THE QUANTUM LEAP INTO THE MUCH VASTER LOGIC IS WHERE THE PROBLEM SITS RATHER THAN IT BEING A PROBLEM OF LOGIC PER SE.
LOGIC IS FEAR.
They are the same thing.
Logic is out of fear!
Out of the fear of the uncomprehended,
out of the fear of the chaos,
logic creates a small world, clear-cut.
Logic is like a garden that you have planted,
and not even like a Zen garden but like an English garden – clean-cut, symmetrical, rational.
That’s why English gardens are so ugly,
because they are so artificial and so unnatural.
In nature there is no symmetry.
If you go into a jungle there is no symmetry;
trees are growing in their own ways and every tree is doing its own thing.
But that is the beauty of a jungle.
You can feel something of God there,
but you cannot feel anything of God in an English garden.
You can feel something of Victoria,
but not of God.
That’s the beauty of a Zen garden.
It happened once:
A great emperor was learning from a Zen master about Zen gardening.
Three years he learnt, and he made a beautiful garden;
he had thousands of gardeners working.
He was learning from the master and he was implementing everything that he learnt.
After three years the master came – that was the examination.
The emperor was trembling, because these three years he had known the man, he was ferocious.
And you could not deceive him.
He had tried every way, whatsoever he had said had been implemented, but still he was afraid – because he had not yet learnt the secret.
He was still logical,
he was systematizing things,
although he had made a very asymmetrical garden
– but in the asymmetry itself there was a logic,
there was symmetry hidden behind.
The master came.
He looked around, and he never smiled.
For hours he went around and around.
He looked at the whole garden and the emperor was perspiring, he had failed.
The master had not said a single word.
And then finally he said,
”I don’t see a single dead leaf in the garden.
Where are all the dead leaves?
How can such a big garden be without dead leaves?!”
And the emperor said,
”I told my servants to remove all the dead leaves because you were coming.”
He said,
”Tell them to bring all the dead leaves back!”
They went outside the garden,
they brought all the dead leaves back, and
the master threw the dead leaves in the garden.
And the wind started playing with the dead leaves and it took them all over the place.
And he laughed and he said,
”Now it is okay – now it is natural.
But you have failed.
Three years more, then I will come again.”
What is a quantum leap?
A quantum leap is going from system to no system,
going from cosmos to chaos,
going from the finite to the infinite,
going from the knowledgeable to the unknowable.
A quantum leap cannot be from logic to supra-logic – what leap is there?
There is no leap.
There is a connection, it is a continuity.
Logic and supra-logic are in one continuum where is the quantum leap?
The quantum leap is when you break away from the continuity,
when the old disappears and
the new suddenly exists
– and there is a gap between the two,
there is no connection.
That needs courage.
That’s why I insist again and again:
religion is only for the courageous people.
Religion is only for those who dare enough,
who love to live dangerously.
＊ ＊ ＊
beloved osho
”The last word of Buddha was, sammasati.
Remember that you are a buddha – sammasati.”
sammasati
It means "right remembrance".
”正しく想起する”
meditation & love
osho samadhi
beloved osho
”The last word of Buddha was, sammasati.
Remember that you are a buddha – sammasati.”
sammasati
It means "right remembrance".
”正しく想起する”
meditation & love
osho samadhi
